Didn't get a Demon 170, you may be able to get a crate engine

[vortecd]

https://www.stellpower.com/news-202...LFDqQDrGtXNawaQBNdxZL9wOdHc8YaYmRRhzE8nxIQoz8

 

[MikeD1]

Nice but I'm waiting for the release of the sweet, sweet "more than 20 new co-branded premium car detailing and car wash products under the Direct Connection/Jay Leno’s Garage banner "

 

[BULL]

Nice but I'm waiting for the release of the sweet, sweet "more than 20 new co-branded premium car detailing and car wash products under the Direct Connection/Jay Leno’s Garage banner "

Shiny is faster, right?

 

[GNBRETT]

Under $30k seems like quite a bargin actually......

 

[EricG]

Under $30k seems like quite a bargin actually......

I was going to say, $27k is not too bad - right?

 

[Marc W]

Not bad. When you compare it to what you can buy on the market though… 🤔. Just a humble example 🙃…. I’ll be selling my 426 in the future when the new motor is in and running. I’m thinking $25k for the whole thing… turnkey. That will be fresh after a tear down/refresh. Cylinders/rings, valves, springs, gaskets, etc. (pictures included). So…. a fresh engine top to bottom with billet crank, forged I-beam rods, billet pistons, billet caps, ARP 625 studs, Thiteck heads, Whipple DragPak SC, etc, etc! The 170 is rated at 1025 at the crank. That’s about the same as most your pulley builds make on e85. 900+ rwhp Mine makes 1400. Of coarse I’m sure the 170 will have some sort of sticker or emblem to make it special.

 

[Speedy!]

Considering the Hellephant crate motor was like $35K (not including all the markups) and 1000HP I'd say that's a pretty decent price all in.

 

[drag racer]

BUT...will any of these parts ever be actually available??? It is a good thing to finally see a DC catalog update after they basically skipped this year. Got long blocks, the blowers, some other stuff, but still don't see that 170 rear end, axles, and driveshaft

 

[Marc W]

The biggest thing in my opinion coming out of the 170 build is that rear end. You can duplicate the engine easily for that money.

 

[Speedy!]

It's so odd to me that Dodge could do like really amazingly cool things but somehow seems to always get tripped up. What's up with that?

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

I've had Power Broker dealers tell Dodge wouldn't release the good stuff until after the Demon 170's were built. No use pissing off the guys that donated 100k ADM to the dealers before they release all the pieces for people to build their own Demon 170's at home.

I got to make a nice video about Mr. Rall BSing me that a Hellephant wasn't in the Demon 170. I love Dodge mouthpieces

 

[BULL]

Somebody remind me, was the C170 the daddy, or was the A170 the daddy?

 

[drag racer]

Both daddies? iron block vs. Al block - choose your weapon

 

[BULL]

Both daddies? iron block vs. Al block - choose your weapon

Isn't the A170 going to be rated higher hp though?

 

[Marc W]

Remember that the Hellephant is a BES built aluminum block 426 rated at 1000 hp on pump gas. It will make way more than the 170 if you put it on e85 and turn it up accordingly. Much more serious motor in my opinion. It’s all good because both are good crate packages but….. Dodge calling everything in a crate now a Hellephant is Bullshit. That name is derived from the Elephant Motor nickname for the 426 in the 1960’s. 6.2 L Hellcat/Demon motors are not 426’s. It’s just another example of up labeling something that isn’t …. to sell to people who don’t know. The 426 on my hood was originally a Hellephant badge. I cut the Hellephant head off of it because I wanted the Mopar style 426, but my motor is not a Hellephant and I didn’t want to label it as something it isn’t. Then Dodge does just that with the Direct Connection crate motors. 🙄

 

[1971demon]

It's so odd to me that Dodge could do like really amazingly cool things but somehow seems to always get tripped up. What's up with that?

Intentions seem good...then somewhere down the line..too many cooks with their hands in the soup...

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

Somebody remind me, was the C170 the daddy, or was the A170 the daddy?

A30 is the same 100 built limited 426 Hellephant from a few years ago. A170 just has E85 added on top for more power.
The C30 is basically the Demon 170 engine without E85, C170 is the Demon 170 engine on E85

 

[BULL]

A30 is the same 100 built limited 426 Hellephant from a few years ago. A170 just has E85 added on top for more power.
The C30 is basically the Demon 170 engine without E85, C170 is the Demon 170 engine on E85

The A blocks are also aluminum?

 

[Marc W]

A30 is the same 100 built limited 426 Hellephant from a few years ago. A170 just has E85 added on top for more power.
The C30 is basically the Demon 170 engine without E85, C170 is the Demon 170 engine on E85

For some reason that makes me think of the new menu at McDonalds. What the hell am I looking at ?😵‍💫

 

[1971demon]

For some reason that makes me think of the new menu at McDonalds. What the hell am I looking at ?😵‍💫

Just order the Big mack...