Menscer Shock Settings

[SLOWCAT]

For those of you who have Menscer shocks all the way around, what compression and rebound settings are you running them at for drag racing at the track? I know for an IRS car you don't really want squat so I am curious as to what everyone runs them at as I am looking to dial in my suspension.

 

[vortecd]

@Hatermkr runs them and would have an idea if it wasn't run off. @Marc W maybe

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

I contacted my Friend John Reed of Reed motorsports. He is a dealer for Menscer and also uses them on his Challenger race car.

He said a good starting point is -

Fronts 6 on compression and 15 on the rebound.

Rears 15 on compression and 6 on the rebound.

All from full tight and back off settings and see what the car does.
They may need to be tightened depending how your car handles that.


~ Linda

 

[Marc W]

@Hatermkr runs them and would have an idea if it wasn't run off. @Marc W maybe

I use Strange adjustable coilovers. They are 10 up/10 down. A simple adjustable drag shock. The Menscers are far more sophisticated, but still…. the magic results from correct settings. Those settings are all dependent on track conditions. And those change. You will want to learn about how and why you need to change the settings to work with different track conditions so you can make changes at the track rather than have one setting for everything. Menscers may be magical when set right but… they don’t do that for you. Example…. You’re making a lot of power and running on a tight prepped track. It’s a dead hook condition. You are going to want to control your front end. A low rebound setting lets your front come up easily (quicker) and with the help of the energy stored in that long spring…. it gets a running start at a wheelie. That energy is better used for moving the car forward instead lifting the front up in the air. Tighten the rebound and slow down the front end by not letting that spring do its thing. The other situation…. A low prep/no traction condition. You want to transfer as much weight as possible on the hit. You want the rear to squat and the front to go to full extension quickly. A soft rebound setting on the front will allow that to happen and help the car to hook. Anyway…. A lot of variables. I would suggest mid settings all around to start, and make adjustments depending on conditions and what the car is doing. Get a dedicated notebook and log conditions, settings and results. That way if you do something right, you can go back to it. For everybody who doesn’t have the magical electronic drag mode of the Demon 170 to do it for then…. adjustable coilovers are as good as it gets.

 

[Unholy707]

Yep, darn shame.

@Hatermkr runs them and would have an idea if it wasn't run off. @Marc W maybe

 

[GNBRETT]

Those things have crazy adjustments bro its almost endless. Shock setting are really dependant on the hp, weight... etc..... U really cant use someone else's settings for ur car ull have to dail it in urself.

I had Menscers on my old Mustang and so did my cousin. We had totally different suspension setups as my car was way faster and lighter yet they were both the same year car.

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

For those of you who have Menscer shocks all the way around, what compression and rebound settings are you running them at for drag racing at the track? I know for an IRS car you don't really want squat so I am curious as to what everyone runs them at as I am looking to dial in my suspension.

Tell us more about your Hellcat and what are the mods?
How much HP and your best ET

~Linda

 

[SLOWCAT]

Tell us more about your Hellcat and what are the mods?
How much HP and your best ET

~Linda

To keep it short

-Built A8 Trans
-Gen 5 stage 2 3.0 Whipple
-Menscer's all the way around with a full AAD control arm set in the rear
-15inch Conversion

Car made 970whp (Still on a stock motor 🙃)

Best ET was a 9.5 @142 with a 1.38 60' on my old setup, haven't run the car on the new setup yet.

 

[GNBRETT]

Ur making 970 whp with a stock Hellcat motor? I would be investing in a short block bro before I did ANYTHING else ur gonna melt that shit with anymore power im surprised its lasted this long.

Ur playing with FIRE bro. Save ur block before a rod goes thru it and destroys everything. I put a rod thru mine at 900 whp on a stock motor and I wasnt even racing it just making a semi hard pull. Destroyed everything including valve train.

 

[JDSHellcat]

TECH — Menscer Motorsports kind of a starting point to go from. I'm going to add them to my challenger as well

 

[fumanchu182]

Ur making 970 whp with a stock Hellcat motor? I would be investing in a short block bro before I did ANYTHING else ur gonna melt that shit with anymore power im surprised its lasted this long.

Ur playing with FIRE bro. Save ur block before a rod goes thru it and destroys everything. I put a rod thru mine at 900 whp on a stock motor and I wasnt even racing it just making a semi hard pull. Destroyed everything including valve train.

I have gone faster with a stock block, a lot of people have. It’s all in the timing and fuel. E85 octane or higher and don’t put a ton of timing in the top end. No more than 17-18 depending on octane. Block has 65k miles on it and is now sitting in my race car waiting for more abuse.

 

[SLOWCAT]

Ur making 970 whp with a stock Hellcat motor? I would be investing in a short block bro before I did ANYTHING else ur gonna melt that shit with anymore power im surprised its lasted this long.

Ur playing with FIRE bro. Save ur block before a rod goes thru it and destroys everything. I put a rod thru mine at 900 whp on a stock motor and I wasnt even racing it just making a semi hard pull. Destroyed everything including valve train.

I know I'm playing with fire, everyone I've told that to has said that 😂. The plan is to build the motor but I just wanna see how much I can push it.

 

[GNBRETT]

Some do live at that level and I agree tuning plays a major role but its still a bad idea especially since ur looking to push it past a 1000 whp now. Stock blocks just dont live that long at that HP level no matter whos tuning or what fuel ur using. Things hauling ass tho!

 

[SRT.LEE]

I made 1100+ stock block w/ the 3.8…now it’s a built TKM but the stock block held fine well over 1000. Just put on the menscers and was looking for pointers or a starting point to make adjustments from, race fuel, built everything and is currently an 8.5 index car at 4600lbs with driver.

 

[Marc W]

The problem with making big power on a stock block is…. it’s fine until it isn’t. One of the most likely failures to happen is a rod failure. That can look like this……

 

[Unholy707]

Are we talking stock block or stock bottom end here.

 

[RGPIII]

I run the Kelltracs and have been at 13/6 front and rear still fine tuning them. been 1.24 60ft.

 

[Unholy707]

I run the Kelltracs and have been at 13/6 front and rear still fine tuning them. been 1.24 60ft.

Any modification needs for them to clear things?

 

[jonx96]

The problem with making big power on a stock block is…. it’s fine until it isn’t. One of the most likely failures to happen is a rod failure. That can look like this…… View attachment 144553 View attachment 144554

Wow I forgot about these pictures. Talk about a bad dream.

 

[jonx96]

I’ve been considering mencers. Has anyone had any issues with them leaking who run them or other brands leaking? I do street drive a good amount so I’m curious.